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Posted by Listen With Others on 8 May 2009
After a full week of struggling with Duck’s Office Block, the junior 8 X 8 team needed a rather gentler crossword like Requisite Knowledge this week. We were nearly halfway through by the end of Friday with lots of squares neatly divided, diagonally into two to squeeze in the possible letters – and even some threes and multiples.
I love the clarity of Elfman’s clueing. Yet, despite the obvious gifts, like ANTONIA, KHANATE, TEAM SPIRIT, and NIDIFY in the top half of the grid, it was the bottom half that filled first. ATTEND, DELILAH, TABLE WINE, RIPARIAN and ISLAND UNIVERSE soon gave us enough intersections to identify omitted letters and, at the breakfast table on Saturday ‘taught me all I knew’ danced into view. The rest was sheer pleasure. No red herrings this week!
However, as always we had our problems with some wordplay. We would never have found OAKNUT, had it not been for the omitted K and the need for an O at the start, to give us that honest serving man ‘WHO’. We are hoping that our opting for GITTERN as the musical instrument is right, as we have G?TTERN – but could there be some obscure word play with an old English word for flatulence (some kind of gut utterances?) ABORNE was a real stinker. The clue was a fine spelling out of the solution but we couldn’t, at first, find it in Chambers. Of course, we should have the experience to go straight to ABEAR but no, we dawdled amongst bornes and ornes and even newfangled Latin expressions like Ab orne (jumping off decorated roofs?).
We were picky about (C)HIPPED, as our chipped shots are actually high trajectory ones (or, at least, we wish they always were) and, again, we were blundering among varieties of UPPING for a while.
Our final problem was with BUTENE, intersecting with DISHFUL – at least, that’s what we opted for since we had the anagram of DI+FLUSH, giving us ?UTENE, but ‘everything in vessel’ didn’t quite seem to suit ‘dishful’, and, although butene is a hydrocarbon, we didn’t understand the wordplay. I hope one of you experienced solvers will explain it to me.
So, thank you Elfman. There was plenty of challenge for us here, and lots of satisfaction. I like colouring in symmetrical shapes and, as usual, we were conscious of the compiling genius that went into fitting those six words around the W and making a coherent grid round it. I realise the purists will grumble about the four girls’ names that had to be used to make this possible – but I don’t see any other way it could have been done.
Shirley Curran
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Posted by Listen With Others on 1 May 2009
The Junior 8 X 8 team surpassed itself and finally got there after six days of struggle. Can these Listener crosswords go on getting more and more difficult? We gave up several times but then sneaked another look and another clue made sense, so we laboured on. However, we had the usual red herring. This time we got the extra letters T…AN…I…C and, for a while, were sure we were dealing with the famous ship that reeled OFF the ICE and sank – the extra letters seemed much harder to find than the misprints, but, of course, we needed both to be able to spot that we were looking for THE CANONICAL HOURS.
I kept a record of our solving, and some of our thoughts are below – I wonder how often our attempts to understand Duck’s wordplay were misguided. We know we can trust him – after all, he writes the ‘rules’ but that doesn’t make the deciphering of his subtle wordplay any easier. Here are our fumbles:
Across
1 GRASPS (P in GRASS) (Clasps seemed a fair contender for a while – after all, the field you play is a kind of class!)
12 What a struggle to find MADRONA with the H of HARD – nuts = anagram as extra – so it’s ADR in a MONA monkey
14 VARUNA – what a headache trying to decipher this wordplay – it was the V that didn’t leap out at us of V (vide = see) RUN = track and AA rock. A nasty, complex one, I think.
16 GAS METER (the letters are in there)
17 SILEX (S + ILEX – Once we had found the theme, we realized that we had to take a C out for the theme, but I still don’t know why!)
24 RENEGUER is a sort of anagram with an extra O that we require but this is probably one of our errors
27 PANSY fits nicely with the definition – but the wordplay? Help please, someone!
29 OIDIA – great to have a straightforward hidden word – more like that please!
31 IRITIC (I + RIT- musical abbreviation for slowing down + ICI the company – or most of it – we need that I)
32 NOGGIN (NO GIN – but by this time I needed a double)
34 The last clue we solved NOTABLE – (NO + TABLE)
Down
1 CONFUSE (examine the fuse – I liked that one, nice plain English, if somewhat old fashioned technology)
3 AME (French for soul losing the T from spiritless – TAME)
4 I am wondering about SATEEN but don’t see why and probably never will – however, it somehow gave me the extra L so must have been LATE in SEN
9 PLATITUDE (P + LATITUDE – an easy clue for simple souls like the team)
10 PENDLE (PEN on HELD reversed – the H is an extra letter (I was having witch-like thoughts by this stage of our solving – about the third day!)
11 SNARK (From ‘The Hunting of the Snark’ (I)S + NARK) Again, the complete wordplay escapes me.
20 TESTATE (T + ESTATE) These relatively straightforward clues – the five above, encourage the newcomers to keep going
21 ARRANGE but I am not sure what the NAG is doing in there or where the horse and harness are!
23 WRITER (a heard clue)
25 GINGLE – with an extra U but the wordplay?
26 VISIVE (a rare word for ‘able to see’ and VIVE – once the word for ‘lively’ with IS in it)
27 SPILT (It’s SPIT with L in it) It was a lucky search in Chambers that produced the definition of ‘plant with a spade = SPIT’
33 (S)EEN Pretty obvious, but it was one of the last clues we solved – the little ones can be nasty can’t they?
So, somehow, no doubt with a few serious misinterpretations, we managed to fill the grid and were astounded when we found LAUDS, PRIME and SEXT. It wasn’t immediately clear what a fine pattern all the other diagonal canonical hours made – but what satisfaction when we saw it.
I don’t know whether ‘enjoyable’ is the word, but Duck’s Office Block was challenging and very satisfying. I wonder whether the BLOCK of the title has something to do with the mental limitations of solvers like us.
Shirley Curran.
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