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Listener 4117.5: Headache by Zaphod, a Setter’s Blog

Posted by Listen With Others on 14 January 2011

The end was obviously where I started.

After studying the number 4117.5 for only a couple of milliseconds, I found the following coincidence almost overwhelming:

4117.5 = (3*3*3*5*61)/2
and
42 = (3+3+3+5+6+1)/2

How cool is that?

The answer having thus been reduced to 42, the question could be anything; this greatly simplified the crossword for the setter at the expense of the solve, which I deemed a tad on the easy side for the average solver. Time for a few red herrings.

Fish*, of course, led to dolphins. It has always surprised me that Serbia – a land-locked country – has so many words for dolphin (well OK, not all of them mean dolphin exactly, but one needs to see the interconnectedness of everything; I maintain that the spacecraft from planet Jxyck in Haah Minor are dolphin-shaped, and that 3,000 years ago one did land in what is now Serbia, and that the locals did have a word that equates to bogyman in Standard Galactic – so the clue is perfectly fair. And while we’re on the subject, if I can be bothered to download a Babel fish just to play mind games with the natives, then so can you; it costs less than TEA, and you don’t have any problems with obscure dialects, or poets for that matter.)

The diagonals were a whim. With a half-finished grid I realised they might be made to read something. A few rewrites later (which fortuitously led to the introduction of some pictorial highlighting) I had two messages that I thought pretty neat. The real instructions were, however, to be found by playfair-encoding the aforesaid cute animal representations. Given that all you Earth lifeforms share the same DNA, I thought the keyword almost too obvious.

Successful solvers should now have origami instructions to assemble a fully operational intergalactic spaceship which, if correctly put together, should read along the underside “SO LONG, AND THANKS FOR ALL THE FISH”. That’s a hint – geddit?

Well, I was going to leave it there, but the editors were of the opinion that a further hint was necessary. Accordingly, if the solver makes all the left, right, up, down, backward, forward and diagonal folds into the 4th dimension and back out again IN ALL NINE SHIP SECTIONS, the resulting 4D Sudoku problem, once solved, reads (using a simple substitution cipher): GO STRAIGHT TO THE END OF THE UNIVERSE. FIND BAR CALLED MILLIWAYS AND ORDER A ROUND. DON’T FORGET TOWEL.

Because of this, all entries received by post will be marked incorrect (sorry, George – you almost got there). Other entries will be inspected at the aforementioned one-off Listener Dinner venue.

*FISH: From the solver’s point of view, a much overworked theme – from the setter’s, however, a potential goldmine. They haven’t even found all the fish in the sea, let alone named them. So, just qualify as a marine biologist, fund an exploration, find a new species, name it Gargle Blaster, and wow! – you have a really accessible crossword. Apparently, though, there’s no pleasing everybody.

Zaphod.

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Great Expectations by Samuel – Setter’s Blog

Posted by clanca1234 on 8 January 2011

I’ve greatly enjoyed solving some of the Christmas Listeners over the years, so have thought for a while about a suitable theme for a Christmas puzzle. On holiday last summer I had printed out from the Times site some randomly selected Listeners that predated when I started solving the puzzle seriously in 2005 or so. One of these was Double Carte Blanche by Phi (Listener 3760 from February 2004). I won’t spoil the theme for anyone who wishes to solve this puzzle, but it involved two grids which had to be placed on top of one another. I was impressed with this, and it was whilst thinking about possible Christmas themes that these two things coincided and I thought of setting a puzzle that turned into an Advent Calendar,  where ‘doors’ would be opened in one grid to reveal letters in the second grid, and thus a seasonal message.

The first, and most obvious, hurdle was the fact that the grids could not be too large, as the space in The Times is constrained. I sat down to try to come up with a single grid with a suitable message that I was confident would fit into a reasonable sized grid. I figured that any message presented horizontally would have to be on alternate lines so as to avoid the grid simply falling apart once doors had been cut out. With a message that would probably have to include the words ‘GREETINGS’ or ‘CHRISTMAS’, the minimum width of the grid would have to be nine letters. After much thinking and playing around, I settled on the message SEASONS GREETINGS TO ALL SOLVERS AND SETTERS, knowing that I had a bit of play in there so that I could switch the words SOLVERS and SETTERS around if I ran into trouble. This also had the plus point that it was almost symmetrical about the central column. I toyed with having ‘TO ALL’ displayed without a space in between, but it seemed tidier not to.

Once I had the message determined, and had thought that this fitted nicely into a 9 by 11 grid, the next step was to work out how to generate numbers in the first grid. There would have to be 24 of them, and the obvious way to do this was by having clashes and taking the numerical difference of the letters. At this point, a few things became apparent. The first was that this would make life pretty tricky for the solver (that was a lot of clashes to fit into a 99 cell grid – almost a quarter of the cells), and secondly, it was going to be impossible to construct a grid whereby each of the clash cells would reveal a letter contained in the ‘SEASONS GREETINGS…..’ message. The message had 38 cells, and I would need more than this to enable each clash cell to reveal a thematic letter. However, I really wanted the clashes to be in symmetrically placed cells, so I could help the solver a little bit with locating these.

At this point I paused for a week or so, and tried to decide whether I should go for a larger grid after all, even though this would take it out of the realms of The Listener, and by necessity to The Magpie, where larger grids would probably be acceptable. In the end, I decided to press on with the original plan, reasoning that the revealing of the thematic letters would, assuming that only a single grid would be submitted, be a kind of check that solvers had also completed the ‘underneath’ grid.

By this time I was ready to start grid construction, and that was when the problems really started. Some setters, such as Elap, have programming knowledge that means they can write programmes to generate complex grids. Radix uses the Mathematica program to do this sort of thing. I, however, am not up to that, so sat down, quite literally, with pencil and squared paper, to come up with grid A.  I thought it wouldn’t be too difficult to come up with a grid that contained 24 clashes of the required type.

Boy, was I wrong.

It took three months, on and off, of working on this, to come up with a suitable grid. Many times I reached the point of having 16 or 17 clashes sorted out, and then simply ran out of words to generate the rest. I almost gave up, but battled on, and after certainly more than 100 hours work, I came up with what I thought would turn out to be the final grid A. I breathed a sigh of relief, went to bed very happy – and then woke up next morning, came to check what I had done, and found that X-A was not 24, as I had assumed towards the end of the fill, but was in fact 25. At this point I did give up for a few days, and decided that I just wasn’t up to the job. In the end, my wife asked me why I was so grumpy. I told her, and she, understandingly, said that she was sure I could sort it out. I’m glad I listened, as the mistake actually turned out to be relatively easy to sort out. A couple of hours later, grid A was complete.

Grid B, by comparison, was a straightforward fill, with the only thing to consider being the letters contributing towards the thematic message. Before starting, I decided on my instruction to solvers, which would be:

PLACE A OVER B AND OPEN DOORS

Hence I needed 23 entries in the grid. This was duly achieved:

Readers at this point may realise that the above is not actually what finally appeared in The Times!

I was conscious that grid B would be a lot easier for solvers to complete than would grid A, so I decided to use a clueing gimmick that would hopefully not allow the instruction to appear to be ascertained too easily by solvers. This was a simple variation on a theme, whereby superfluous letters would need to be arranged according to the alphabetical order of the actual answers. I would have preferred to use misprinted definitions, my current favourite gimmick, but these clues often end up being quite long due to the limitations of the misprints, and I knew that clues had to be concise. It was time to start writing clues.

This was reasonably challenging, as a) I seemed to have some difficult words (TREKSCHUITS!), b) I wanted to make clues in grid A reasonably straightforward, and c) with 54 clues to write, they all had to be fairly concise so as to not go over the limit on the number of words that can be used in a puzzle. This kept me busy for a few weeks (although I did later wonder why I worried, when a Pieman puzzle was published that had 80 clues or thereabouts).

The clues written, my test solver turned things round fairly quickly, and it was time to e-mail the puzzle to the Listener editors.

In due course I heard back from the first vetter, and the news was good… kind of. He was happy with the puzzle to go forward as it was, but had concerns over the unching in grid B, where EGURGITATE and ASSISTANTS had 5 unches, too many for 10 letter entries. The vetter also had a few concerns over the interpretation of the thematic message and thus the denouement.

After some discussion, two new entries were added, GYP and RUT:

This, however, meant that the thematic message would have to change to be 25 letters long. We agreed on the (hopefully) clearer message of CUT OUT DOORS AND PASTE A OVER B (as it would be impossible to cut out doors after pasting A over B). This was better, but unfortunately meant that I had to rewrite almost all of the clues for this grid. I toyed briefly with asking the first vetter to just stick with the original version of the puzzle (after all, he had been happy to do this), but I figured that the effort involved would result in a much better puzzle, so started writing clues again. This took a couple of weeks, but finally the puzzle was complete.

Of all the puzzles that I’ve set to date, this one probably took the most effort, so it’s good to see that it has been mostly well received by solvers. Apologies to those who found cutting out the doors to be a rather fiddly process, and I definitely owe the statistician a beer or two for the extra problems this must have caused him when checking submissions.

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No 4117, Great Expectations, by Samuel, Season’s Greetings.

Posted by shirleycurran on 7 January 2011

The last one of the year, and we have managed to solve them all, with a lot of head scratching, a few nudges and, undoubtedly, lots of silly errors, so we are determined to manage this one. What do we get? Two! Are they compensating for next week – Christmas Day, or is this another case of Double Cross (Radix’s April double where we agonised for a while about which grid to send) or Pointer’s August Double Devilry (where the two grids were duplicates)?

We jumped to and fro for a while, solving haphazardly, but Grid B filled with far more ease than grid A and soon we had a full grid and a bit of typical Samuel – the requirement to arrange our extra word-play letters into alphabetical order of the solutions in order to produce an instruction. I wonder how he managed to compile this with the added requirement, later on, to have a number of letters from this grid popping up through quaint little doors in the other grid!

Samuel was the power behind ‘Listen With Others’ until Dave Hennings took charge over a year ago, so surely, this time, we’ll be honoured by a setter’s blog that will tell us which came first. I imagine he must have fitted 25 solutions in with the necessary letters that had to do double duty, then forced his wordplay to contain those extra letters that gave the instruction, ‘CUT OUT DOORS AND PASTE A OVER B’

It sounds easy so far, but we are not experts yet and,  of course had our red herring, 18ac. ‘Irish betrayed fair woman’ “Well, that must be I + SOLD, but a fair woman is ISOLDE, so we’ll put an E as the extra letter!” Woolly thinking, I know – the extra letter had to be in the wordplay! It was IR + SOLD, giving us DOORS and not DOOES!

We had been expecting something seasonal and an advent calendar was clearly in front of us. That would mean cutting out 24 little doors, and we needed a 38-letter message, so we started hunting for it and Samuel didn’t disappoint. Like about 90% of oenophilic Listener compilers, he had included some old wine in this grid (and even the effect of it ‘EGURGITATE’ at 8d), but we decided to complete the other grid and look again.

Not so easy! This was cold-solving for most of the time and it wasn’t until we had a symmetrical set of thematic numbers emerging, that we managed to sort out our last solutions. (We took the morning off to ski in deep powder snow before returning to the task!) We were troubled by T???SCH?I?S ‘Towed boats could be stuck with this English river’ (11) (TREKSCHUITS – an anagram of THIS, STUCK and E R) How grateful I am for electronic devices! Now there’s the useful word to casually drop into this week’s frivolous chat!

I’ve said it before – I don’t like the short words. 8d. King leaves fish dish’ (4) That could be SA(R)GO or S(K)ATE and, by now, we had worked out what was going on and that we needed a G in that light – but was this it, or were we going to compute the difference between the T of SATE and the G of TUGS to get door number 13? That was the great advantage of these little doors. We ticked them off numerically, from 1 to 24 and soon, with two letters to decide upon, had two numbers still to find and could work backwards. We needed a door 20 and that gave us Y at the end of REKE? Eureka!

All that was left to do was the cutting,  gluing and highlighting (and to wonder about those extra little doors that opened onto nothing!) I am sure there will be a number of people fondly reminiscing about last year’s wrens at this stage.

There it was – our advent calendar, wishing us SEASON’S GREETINGS TO ALL SOLVERS AND SETTERS. Thank you, Samuel, and the same to you.

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Listener 4117: Great Expectations by Samuel (or Two Degrees of Separation?)

Posted by Dave Hennings on 7 January 2011

Samuel is becoming a bit of a prolific solver at the moment. As well as his this being his second Listener of the Year (the first was 4069, Conversion, about Muhammad Ali), he’s had a smattering of Inquisitors and Enigmatic Variations puzzles as well. What’s more, he seems to have been getting progressively sneaky, and as this is the last puzzle of the year, he has probably been told to conjure up a doozy!

As far as I know, I’m all-correct this year, so there’s just this one hurdle to jump. Anyone who’s got to know me will realise that athletics is not my forté! Anyway, let’s press on.

In Great Expectations, there were two clue types. In Grid A, there were normal clues but with an unknown number of clashes, which must be replaced by the number got by subtracting one from the other. I’ve said before that clashes are probably my least favourite feature, and I haven’t changed my mind since whenever that was. No point in having a strop though, so I got going … on Grid B!! Here each clue had an extra letter in the wordplay which was not entered in the grid. It looked as though the two grids were entirely independent, each being a puzzle in its own right. I suppose that’s so we don’t complain too much about there being no Times, and therefore no Listener, on Christmas Day. Spare a thought for us atheists, guv!

10ac yielded GREAT, 14 RIO, 15 TAELS, 19 ORCA and 22 AREA. The downs provided 6 ERGS, 20 BREW and 21 JOES. Not a bad start, and in fact the grid was pretty much complete after about 90 minutes. 24ac, Simple to rip off brave tale, TEARABLE, was a nice bit of misdirection, with the definition being simple to rip and an anagram of BRA[V]E TALE. And as for 25ac, In Scotland, will weasel bet rent with flight crew?. The answer was obviously WETLEASE, an anagram of WEASEL [B]ET, but it needed a check in Chambers to see that will3, defined as a Scottish word for astray, was the anagram indicator.

So all was going swimmingly, but I knew trouble lay ahead. I had let my eyes wander over to the Grid A clues and realised they could be tricky. However, I had pretty much left it alone, since mixing two distinct clue types in my head would have been a recipe for, if not disaster, certainly confusion.

Without a doubt, Grid A was the trickier. The first pass only gave one across answer, 16 LAB. The downs fared better with six: 2 AERATES, 3 EKKA, 4 YEEHAW, 6 CRIED, 15 DIV and 20 XOANA. In hindsight, I am a bit annoyed that I didn’t get ISLANDERS sooner, it was a bit obvious, but that’s how my mind worked on the day. I don’t know if it would have helped greatly since the two 9-letter acrosses had four clashes. The other one, 12 ORDERINGS was a bit of a pig, being (B)ORDE(R) RINGS.

After I got about three or four clashes and did the numerical subtraction, it was a good guess that the theme was the Advent Calendar, and that there would be twenty-four clashing squares, ie about 25% of the grid! In all, I suspect Grid A took the best part of four hours; a bit difficult to be exact as it was the run-up to Christmas and I dipped in and out of both grids quite a bit. But I got there in the end.

I know that Samuel tries to introduce a feature into his puzzles that hasn’t been used before, and I believe that having to put the extra letters into the order of the answers to the respective clues was just such a gimmick (in a nice way). And after determining the first six, I reached for my scissors. CUT OUT …. Actually, I now use a Stanley knife as it provides a much sharper blade and can get into fiddly corners of the squares. Yes, this week we had to CUT OUT DOORS AND PASTE A OVER B. I made a copy of the grids and cut out the doors. Twenty-four little squares littered my desk. This was followed by another of my pet hates: obliteration of a lot of hard work. Making sure not to detach the two grids, I folded Grid A over and pasted it on top of Grid B and looked through the holes.

4117, Alternative Entry?

Well, of course, it read rubbish!

So, another copy and more cutting out, but this time ensuring that the little doors were not detached. I separated the two Grids and pasted A over B. Still lots of obscuring of past work, but this tiume a message could be read using Grid A and those squares revealed in Grid B: SEASONS GREETINGS TO ALL SOLVERS AND SETTERS. I coloured it, not with my fibre-tip pens, which had all but dried up, but with my recently-purchased colouring pencils. I thought green to be an appropriate colour, representing the Christmas tree.

An excellent puzzle, as expected, and as I was about to put my entry into its envelope to John Green, a major panic set in. The preamble did not say with partial detachment!! Perhaps the two grids needed to be kept attached. and a small tube made. The message could still be read, and the little doors would still flap about neatly. I decided that I would have to miss the post that night (this was 21 December, I think). OK, the closing date was not until 30 December, but the idea that my envelope could be lying around in the postal system for six days worried me hugely.

“But it wouldn’t look like an advent calendar, would it?” Talking to yourself can be quite therapeutic, although it is also the first sign of madness. “No it wouldn’t!” Answering oneself is, apparently, the second sign of madness! So off went my entry the following day. Would it be received safely, I asked myself? Madness, again!

A letter arrived from JEG this morning to indicate that it must have been!

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