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If I Must Come by Deuce

Posted by shirleycurran on 7 Oct 2022

Of course we anagram the title of the crossword and it gives us three most interesting words – but could they be an early penny-drop moment. There are a couple of hints in the preamble that prompt the same conclusion – we are going to be assigning multiple letters to twelve cells and they will form twelve thematic words that can be replaced by numbers.

However, we still have some really tough clues to solve and to remove 13 words from clues, that are going to give us two parts of a theme. We will also have to spot misprints in all the remaining across clues that will give us an instruction about moving letters, and extra letters in the wordplay of down clues which will lead to a helpful message. Even then we won’t have finished – there will be those ten letters to move.

There is a lot going on here and I almost renounce my hunt for proof of Deuce’s retention of his Listener Setter’s Oenophile Outfit membership – he hasn’t left himself much room – but I spot that he has ‘Used skins to curse grapes around Italy (7)’ We put together HEX UVAE and I (with the H as additional) and produce EXUVIAE – well they must have been used to produce something! And there was a ‘measure’ that we decided was an extra word, ‘Turkish man about to grasp miles becoming measure (8)’ We put a BEY around SEE and ML giving us BESEEMLY, which had to fit into five cells.

There’s a ‘tipple’ too, ‘Swamp current’s ripple (4)’ gave us FEN + I and we decided that FENI was a tipple – something ‘produced in Goa from coconuts or cashew nuts’ so cheers, Deuce!

Fortunately those down clues give us THEY DO FURNISH A ROOM and that rings a bell. Wiki tells us “Books Do Furnish a Room is a novel by Anthony Powell, the tenth in the twelve-novel sequence A Dance to the Music of Time” so that is why the title anagrammed to MUSIC OF TIME and words we were extracting gave us ‘classical’, ‘rock’, ‘metal’, and ‘season’, ‘point’, ‘life’. Was ‘measure’ the one that fitted both the definition of music, and of time, we wondered.

So now we knew that we had to link those twelve words that were appearing as jumbles into words that represented those twelve novels (thank you Wiki!)

Nicolas Poussin (1594-1665), A Dance to the Music of Time
The Wallace Collection, London. Used by permission.

Poussin’s painting above provides both the title for Anthony Powell’s series and also the inspiration for its structure and themes.

Wiki gives us QUESTION, MARKET, WORLD, LADY, CHINESE, ONES, BONES, ART, MILITARY, BOOKS, KINGS and SECRET, so now we know how to enter those words that were too long for the available spaces and we can solve the jumbles and replace each with its appropriate number.

But what about two authors who have to be shown by moving ten letters in column seven. We spot the double L at the bottom of the grid so that must be POWELL and, sure enough, we are left with the letters of POUSSIN. Quit a complex compilation. Thank you Deuce


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Two Names by Deuce

Posted by shirleycurran on 2 Apr 2021

The other Numpty is almost half way through solving the clues of Deuce’s Two Names while I am still busy colour coding clues to match entry lengths and highlighting the 7 slots for the unclued entries. It is rather amusing, later, to see how the clue numbers give us a taxonomic order. I have just finished Bill Bryson’s A Short History of Nearly Everything (brilliant bedtime reading!) and he goes into great detail about the taxonomic disorder of current nomenclature, but his names for our lot were a great help as, when we had ANIMALIA, CHORDATA and MAMMALIA, we could slot in PRIMATES, HOMINIDAE and HOMO SAPIENS.

But I am leaping ahead. We haven’t seen much of Deuce in the Listener series. Does he qualify for the elite setters’ oenophile outfit? I am a third of the way through my scan of the clues before finding a decisive “yes”. ‘Sway twice after [neatly] lapping head of ale (4) (we later use the NE of NEatly to give us part of GENESIS TWO TWENTY but there is enough left in the clue to give us BIS around the ‘head of ale – A = BIAS. Well, if Deuce is lapping that head of ale, Cheers!

We are happily able to spot a monastery, ‘Monastery farm in Midi in dire aerial [assault] (9)’ We anagram AERIAL around MAS (that old chestnut for setters), and LAMASERAI fills the clued nine-letter slot. ‘This [stocking] dresses the tail? Nae! (7, two words)’ gives us another useful anagram for TILE HAT filling one of the three remaining seven-letter slots and our grid fill is underway.

Our very last entry causes us some head-scratching then earns a smile. ‘Internally burn inside of pan having more [two] down (7)’ We put (b)UR(n) into a FRIER and get FURRIER – having more down. Nice!

It doesn’t take TEA long to tell us that CURSE/ LIANA/ L/ N unjumbles to CARL LINNAEUS. I wonder why Deuce didn’t require us to write that below the grid, so that he could have retained all real words.

Those pairs of letters now tell us that HE IS LIKE THE PROTAGONIST OF GENESIS TWO TWENTY. Well, that was Adam wasn’t it? At the end of the verse, God is wanting to give Adam a partner in his naming of all the beasts and so on, on earth, so we look for one of Linnaeus’ partners in the grid A NAME TO CONJOIN AS IN THE CLOSE OF THE PASSAGE – and there she is, his EVE, reversed at the foot of the grid: SARA MORAEA. Thank you Deuce. Very nice!

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Listener No 4650: Two Names by Deuce

Posted by Dave Hennings on 2 Apr 2021

The theme of Deuce’s first Listener in October 2019 was something that didn’t exist five years ago — Brexit. This week, hopefully, a less contentious theme with a person to be identified by the seven numbered (but unclued) entries in the grid. The remaining clues, in alphabetical order, contained an extra word with two hints given by their first two letters.

Scanning grid lengths and answer lengths, the only 9-letter unnumbered entry was in the penultimate column. Its clue was therefore Monastery farm in Midi in dire aerial [assault] (9), and LAMASERIE was slotted in [MAS in AERIAL*] — nice to get, but at this stage totally useless!

Back to the top, and ALAE, ALARUM, ANT, ANTI, AROMA and ASP made me wonder whether every entry began with the letter A. Luckily BALLOT and BEMA disabused me of that. I also noticed that there were an awful lot of people dotted around the clues: Lowry, Cleopatra, Dorothy, O’Connor, Tarzan and Wolff. Oh, and not forgetting Rees-Mogg — bloody Brexit again! [Not quite. Ed.]

Just under an hour saw enough answers for me to be able to start filling the grid. Using LAMASERAI, the top right corner started me off, then across the top and down the left. Unclued 7ac was obviously SAPIENT, so we were looking for a wise man, and it looked as though 3ac at the bottom was MAMMALIA. Linnaeus came to mind but I couldn’t remember his first name. Luckily, Wiki could — it was Carl.

Begrudgingly, my favourite clue was probably the one mentioned above: Rees-Mogg’s old post here to some extent called it original [sin] (6) with its reference to William Rees-Mogg, the father of the current Member of Parliament for North East Somerset, and a former EDITOR of The Times.

The first two letters of the extra words in clues revealed two hints: He is like the protagonist of Genesis two twenty and A name to conjoin as in the close of the passage. Reaching for my old school bible, Genesis 2:20 soon revealed And Adam gave names to al cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; followed by but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. (It’s a mystery to me why we’re told not to start a sentence with “And”, the Old Testament is littered with them.)

The seven unclued entries gave the taxonomy for all of us, but specifically the “thematic person’s self-description”: ANIMALIA, CHORDATA, MAMMALIA, PRIMATES, HOMINIDAE, HOMO, SAPIENS giving the binomial name Homo Sapiens.

So the preamble told us to rearrange the top row. Thus, CURSE LIANA L N gave CARL LINNAEUS and then a related person had to be highlighted. Wiki to the rescue again to find that Linnaeus’s wife was SARA MORAEA and it only took two (!) passes through the grid to find her reversed in the bottom row.

Remembering to change SAPIENT to SAPIENS, all was done. Thanks, Deuce.

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Trick or Treat by Deuce

Posted by shirleycurran on 15 Nov 2019

With Halloween just around the corner, we wondered whether Deuce was a kind of Guy Fawkes in disguise planning to get into the basement below the current government and … No, enough of that … I scanned his (her?) clues to confirm that this apparently new Listener setter earns a place among the Listener Setters Oenophiles and sure enough found ‘Glasses swirled with essence of tequila – cucumbers in the drink? (8, two words)‘. That sounded quite hopeful (until we ‘swirled’ or anagrammed those GLASSES with (teq)U(ila) and found that the cucumbers were SEA SLUGS). Not an auspicious start but “Cheers!” anyway, Deuce. Hope we’ll see you at the bar at the next setters’ dinner – you will have the honour of the slugging.

Clue lengths told us which eight words were to be altered thematically before entry in the grid but those eight words were almost the last we entered. The ‘definition followed by its speaker (title and surname)’ appeared much sooner. “?REXIT? – surely not that!” said the other Numpty, but a moment later, there it was again ‘BREXIT MEANS BREXIT PM MAY’ and we had the theme after about an hour of solving.

The grid filled quickly now with a few smiles along the way. My favourite clue of the week was certainly ‘Neglected any one of the consonants in spelling “flan”?’ That gave us F or L or N didn’t it! Lovely.

BARNIER appeared next from those clashes and he seemed to be occupying the stars on the EU flag that we see being waved, daily, outside Westminster by Mr Loud. I was misled, here, by that word ‘analogous’ and imagined I had to mirror those stars in the other half of the grid. We already had those two, oh so popular politicians, FARAGE and JACOB REES MOGG in our grid but the penny didn’t drop immediately.

And I had cause to rejoice too, as it is almost two years since we said a sad goodbye to Poat’s little HARE who went off for his long holiday (and so many friends have wondered if he had really been shot) but  what a pleasure to see that he is safe, somewhere in Europe  (on the fifth row of the grid after Barnier is ousted – welcome back, little hare!)

We still had to alter those eight answers. D[EU]TERIUM came first, quickly followed by N[EU]ROLOGY, and when we realized that the D[UK]EDOMS were Cambridge and Edinburgh, all fell into place, with J[UK]EBOXES, L[UK]EWARM and GREAT A[UK]S abandoning the EU side of the grid, and R[EU]TERS and R[EU]NIONS being exiled from the UK. Thus we extracted the UK from BARNIER’s side of the grid and took the EU out of the clutches of FARAGE and REES-MOGG.

Well, many thanks to Deuce. (We are really wondering now who the D[EU]ce could be though it is fairly clear which side of the grid he belongs to – and does he believe he has been tricked or is in for a treat when all the shenanigans are over?) This was a gentle bit of fun and left us plenty of time to go to a lively bonfire birthday party at the Rugby Club in the neighbouring village – though there is driving rain and a howling gale in the Yorkshire Dales, where we are just now, and I suspect that the bonfire will not be lit and maybe not that other Westminster one either – if only!




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