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Listener No 4442: Got Me! by Towser

Posted by Dave Hennings on 7 April 2017

Here was Towser’s third Listener. His second was Awful which was an (unsuccessful) attempt to take the Listener down-market with its pun on the old joke “My dog’s got no nose…”! This week there were extra words in eight across and eight down clues, with their first two letters spelling out something helpful. There would also be clashes in five cells that would need resolving and finally extra bars to add to the grid.

1ac Possibly fancying Kate Moss, being rejected after small ball, is stupid meddling (9) looked as though it could be MODEL< after a small ball, but the BEAD for BEADLEDOM would have to wait. However, it didn't have to wait long as BRESCIA went in at 1dn (Italian city cooked crabs, that is (7)), courtesy of Chambers Crossword Dictionary, followed by AUFS at 2 from Forgotten changelings regularly eat up fish (4) (regular letters of eAt Up FiSh).

Next came 3dn DRAPPIE and 4dn LAC, and I was feeling happy. It was fairly evident that symmetrical entries would not in themselves give a symmetrical grid and would form part of longer words or need to be truncated somehow. However, that could be dealt with later.

5dn DISA, 7dn CARLS and what looked like USNIC at 9dn but that wasn’t in C. (I really must learn to mark clues for words that the preamble tells me are not in Chambers.) With the top coming together fairly quickly, I worked down the rest of the grid methodically, although not quite as fast as the top. What’s more, after an hour’s solving, and an almost full grid, I didn’t have a single clash!

Meanwhile, despite having identified many of the extra words in the clues, they didn’t seem to be spelling out anything meaningful.

Nonetheless, the grid was completed another forty minutes later and all the clues were understood. I particularly liked the extra word in 11ac Drug for blood Y-chromosome disease above absolute minimum (7) — I bet Towser was glad that he didn’t have to construct a clue containing yclad, ycleepe, yclept or ycond. (Mind you, I’d have preferred to see ‘uey’ used insetad of UEFA at 21ac!)

With the bottom right corner nearing completion, I had already seen GARGANTUA trying to peak through, and there in column 5, PANTAGRUEL confirmed my guess at the theme. FRANÇOIS RABELAIS provided two more of the unclued entries in the final grid, and as I inked in the required 34 bars, it was satisfying to see the new words being revealed.

The ODQ provided the quotation from the extra words in across clues: Fay ce que vouldras (Do what you like). However, it needed some googling to reveal PANURGE as another character in the work and Alcofribas Nasier as an anagram of François Rabelais and also his pen name. (Who’d have thought they had anagrams in 16th century France?!)

The central cell still needed completing, and the SW–NE diagonal gave the basis for METAGROBOLISE (not -ize) with an O in the central position. Chambers gives this as “vt to mystify; to puzzle out. [Obs Fr metagraboulizer (Rabelais)” and oddly, not -iser!

I must admit that I hate having to draw bars in the endgame as it is so easy to miss one. At least we were told how many, and how many words were in the final grid. It still meant that I had to check and double-check my final entry. And, of course, I had to check the diagonal, only to find that it had to be spelt METAGRABOLISE, to be given by RABELAIS and some extra letters.

Many thanks for a very enjoyable puzzle, Towser. It was a fascinating construction, and great fun uncovering the theme and seeing the final grid being revealed — especially the central O A.
 

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Got Me! by Towser

Posted by Encota on 7 April 2017

Many thanks Towser for a very interesting and not too taxing puzzle.  I found this one contained quite a variety of elements!  Many of the clues seemed fairly straightforward and generous to the solver.  For example:

  Handled glasses, rereading long, endless letters (9)

looks like a simple anagram of LONG (l)ETTER(s) and yes, LORGNETTE it is.  Clever use of ‘Handled’ in the clue’s definition, I like it!

The missing bars at first seemed strange too, since, given the placement of the clue numbers one could deduce the position of all the bars straight away.  But hold on a minute: these ones aren’t part of a 180-degree symmetric grid!  Some clearly will need to move later on.

With around half of the entries placed in the grid I suddenly noticed Row 4 contained RABELAIR.  Given its closeness to RABELAIS, I soon confirmed that the cell with the final R in was one of the five clashes mentioned in the preamble since, in the appropriate Down clue,

 All parts of manuscripts introduced by base, sick acts? (6)

…the answer/entry was EMESES, MSS with each character preceded by an E to represent base.

At this stage my total knowledge of Rabelais consisted of ‘French writer?’ with the emphasis on the Question Mark.  Auntie Google soon helped me out with PANTAGRUEL as one of his works; an across clue looked very like GARGANTUA though I hadn’t realised this was Rabelais too.  Column 2’s down entry looked certain to be Francois (though the ‘RACK’ in the original 14d clue had thrown me a bit – the original answer surely still had to be FRANCK though.  And I recognised PANURGE (no idea why!) when it appeared, too.

Once these were in place there was only one sensible way to include the 34 bars and the 50 entries, though this did take some care and I wouldn’t be surprised if I made yet another crayoning error here – though hopefully not!

The phrases that came from the hidden 16 words:

FAY CE QUE VOULDRAS, and

ALCOFRIBAS NASIER

were also new to me.  Finding out that Francois Rabelais first published under an anagram of his own name (what’s a cedilla between friends?) was delightful.  Though I would have quoted SIR FABIAN’S ORACLE myself.  That’s half the fun of a good Listener crossword – it introduces you to things you might never otherwise have happened upon – a bit like a really good book group does.

I could see that the second diagonal looked very like (what was to me) an uncommon word.  At first sight it looked as if it could readily have contained an O or an A in the centre and the BRB confirmed numerous options were possible, though with only two of them ending -ise.  I’d suspected the Title from the beginning as being part of an augmented anagram and so it proved.  The two As in Rabelais, plus the whole anagram being of RABELAIS GOT ME, meant that the middle letter had to be an A and all was sorted as METAGRABOLISE.  I think.

But was there something more hiding here?  Was this anagram really a reference to Henry Louis Mencken, the so-called BALTIMORE SAGE?  Was there a hidden insult, given MISERABLE GOAT is there?  Or was it a reference to Towser’s analysis of a recent LWO problem, I BLAME STORAGE?  Er…no, no & no again.

I think.

cheers all,

Tim / Encota

 

 

 

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