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What’s My Line by Hawk

Posted by shirleycurran on 29 Jul 2022

The preamble suggested a ladder to me – two straight lines with ten more joining paired letters along these locations – but that was maybe just a little too simple for Hawk. We were to find 22 misprints (anywhere in the clue) identifying locations, as well as a series of clashes – and we weren’t told how many of those – and there was a final requirement to spot ‘an added application of the construction’ in something that would apparently be extra in two clues. Well, I’m up a ladder picking greengages now and then at the moment but this is clearly more complicated than that.

It didn’t take long for Hawk to confirm that he retains the entry ticket for the Listener setters’ oenophile elite. ‘Fancies whisky short after retiring at all’ gave us EVER reversed and RY(e) – the ‘whisky short’. Then he was onto Bacardi, ‘Ignore laughter when ordering Bacardi in foreign lingo’. It was Daughter (D) we had to ignore when we put Bacardi in order, and that gave us ARABIC and a corrected misprint. (He might just have issues if he tries to order his Bacardi in some Arabic countries!) ‘Ejecting regulars, sell pub, as not solvent’. We took the regulars of (s)E(l)L(p)U(b)A(s)N(o)T to give us the solvent ELUANT. He still hadn’t finished! ‘Serve defunct bar to brace a Zambezi dam. Now that was interesting, as our grid allowed KARIBA or ZARIBA and the K of Kariba clashed with the S of ‘tSetse’. It looked as though one of those clashes was going to produce a Z spelling TZETSE and ZARIBA as real words in our final grid. (Cheers, Hawk!)

Soon we had more clashes appearing in a curve shape: (BOTCH/ DRONED) suggesting I, (POLICEWOMAN/ BONNE) suggesting E and (HANGED/ READIES) suggesting R, so a name ending in ZIER – it had to be BEZIER. The corrected misprints were giving us TWELFTH ROW/ SW NE DIAGONAL so my simple ladder had to become a Bezier curve.

We were left with those tough clues in the north-west corner to complete and ten lines to draw. What an achievement for Hawk, not only to have produced those real words from the clashes, but also to have managed to get those ten letters along the twelfth row and the diagonal pairing up.

Finished? No, not quite. I went to bed worrying about that ‘added application of the construction’ and also trying to understand two clues we hadn’t sussed. ‘Lord in ecstasy round companion’ and ‘Report of trench mortar, possibly a weight on newsman’s shoulder’. They had given us DIE and MINI. Oh how sneaky! The CADDIE is the round companion and the newsman carries a MINICAM, so we had CAD CAM as extra elements and Chambers tells us about that. (I also have a rather clever great-nephew doing his doctorate in it at Durham Uni – should have spotted it!)

Many thanks, Hawk. Tough clues, we thought but a beautiful end game.


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Listener No 4646: Life by Hawk

Posted by Dave Hennings on 5 Mar 2021

A new setter this week with a pseudonym that made him or her seem somewhat fearsome. Quite a long preamble faced us and clues listed in pairs for entries symmetrically placed — mostly. That last bit sounded a bit odd until it became apparent from the grid that this referred to the two middle entries across and down.

There was a lot going on in the preamble, starting with the grid representing a metaphorical container. That sounded ominous and might need some lateral thinking which age is making more and more difficult for me. With regard to the clues, one of each pair had an extra word with the other containing a misprint, not necessarily in the definition. Unlike some, I like misprints, but the extra word feature might make things very tricky. The corrections would spell out a thematic quality shared by the extra words.

I liked the first clue, Swimmers discover around 100 German war bombs — reconstructed fandangles — no good leaving for beach dweller (8; 8, two words), partly because there was a hint of a surface reading with swimmers and beach dweller, but overall sounded like gibberish (although it made me smile). Luckily the second sub-clue (?) was an easy solve: SAND FLEA (FANDANGLES* – NG). Of course, I had no idea whether it went in the top or the bottom row.

The trouble was that that didn’t seem to have a misprint or an extra word! Was Hawk being a bit sneaky by having the extra word between the two sub-clues (?), in this case bombs? Time would tell.

A few clues on and nothing else got solved so I tried 2,37 Priest in Sri Lanka meeting queen and king; colonials walk with enough in attendance, without question (5) to see if that could fix SAND FLEA. Part 2 could be QUORUM – QU or better still, QUORATE – QU giving talk as the corrected misprint. As for the first sub-clue (?), it is a mystery to me why Sri Lanka still keeps the IVR code for Ceylon, its old colonial name rather than change to SL or SRI or something. Anyway, CL it is and CLERK went in at 2dn.

SKYWAYS and BASUTOS came next at 20,34, and things started moving in the right direction although somewhat slowly. That said, it was all good fun trying to disentangle the extra words and misprints.

There were some interesting and entertaining clues along the way. 7,40 Mother of gods, allow odd divine inspiration: unknown bencher found after week in House of Lords (4) seemed an awfully long clue for two 4-letter words — LETO (LET + O, misprinted old) and HWYL (Y after W in HL) with bencher being the extra word. As well as 1,48 (see above) with its excellent misprint of war for car, my favourite was 6,26 Products of hairy leg found in piles cream; prince once again calls farm labourers (8) (STILTONS/PREDIALS), mainly because it just made me laugh!

All the political references did not go unnoticed either: visionary government (where?), election plunder (here?) and lay peerage in the House of Lords.

And so we had the misprint corrections spelling out Centres differ and Third letters. It was finally clear what disparate words like decitizenised, slaughterer and dehydrators were giving us: taken together, their centre letters were all different but needed their third letters — Mystic carnival, queen caught to give us the clue to FAQIR which provided the missing letter Q.

All done bar the end bit. Unjumbling the circled letters in the grid gave CARDIOID so we had to find a heart shape which would trace out part of a film quotation “describing the selection”. My main concern was that there were 29 cells that gave this. Normally, such highlighting or drawing would be symmetric, but 29 implied that it wasn’t. One thing I did notice was that there were an awful lot of HWs and WYs in adjacent cells in the grid. Coincidence? (It would indeed turn out so.)

Before analysing the grid, I decided that my first port of call was the ODQ. Well that was depressing, since life had over four columns of references in the index and heart had nearly three. Luckily, help was at hand with my fifth edition rather than the much later eighth. The older version has a number of “Special Categories” such as Epitaphs, Last Words and Mottoes. More importantly this week, it also has Film Lines, and it didn’t take long to find the quotation from Forrest Gump: “My momma always said life was like a box of chocolates… you never know what you’re gonna get.”

All this was somewhat annoying since Forrest Gump is one of the films I was planning to watch again during one of these lockdowns, but sadly it’s still waiting. I have heard the quotation before but whether watching the film would have enabled it to be recalled for this puzzle will remain a mystery. And so a line was drawn through the 29 cells spelling out the last part of the quotation, and joining them up to form a closed loop and a complete heart.

All in all, a very enjoyable puzzle. Thanks, Hawk.

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Life by Hawk

Posted by shirleycurran on 5 Mar 2021

I believe this is Hawk’s first Listener. We muttered about the rather long pre-ramble and the fact that clues were double. “There’s no real need for that!” said the other Numpty but, of course, solving showed us that they were a useful device to combine the two clues, like ‘bombs’ in the first pair, where the extra word appeared between the two and improved the surface-reading of the pair: ‘Swimmers discover around 100 German war bombs – reconstructed fandangles – no good leaving for beach dweller (8;8 two words)’.

There’s an almost convincing surface-reading there of 100 buried offshore bombs that risk wiping out the fellow who has some sort of shack on the beach. We found the SAND FLEA first, by anagramming ‘fandangles’ less NG (no good), then worked out that SCOPELUS was SUS C around OPEL, a German Car (not War), so that BOMBS had to be the extra word that seemed to be part of the first clue but really gave the extra word for the second. And indeed, we struggled just as long and hard with most of the remaining clues, fortunately getting some idea of solutions as our grid filled and being able to work backwards to solve the complex clues.

A new setter. Does he qualify for entry to the Listener Setters’ Oenophile Elite? Gloom settled as I read through the clues and I’m afraid there isn’t a lot of hope for Hawk unless we can somehow accept those’dehydrators’ that appeared in the penultimate clue. By the time we got there, we had sussed that the corrected misprints were spelling CENTRES DIFFER and THIRD LETTERS, so that DEHYDRATORS was only in the clue to give us a central R. Yes, expecting a message, I copied those extra words into a list only to find that, like the chocolates in Forrest Gump’s box, the centres did indeed differ with a mere 25 combined clues producing all the alphabet except Q.

So we remove DEHYDRATORS from ‘Antelope express carrying fish from the south supports European cook over coal fire (7)’ and, overlooking the extremely odd surface reading, decide that SASSABY (one of the many antelopes who make their way into crosswords) is ‘express = SAY’ carrying an upturned BASS, and that the ‘supports’ are, as usual in crosswords, BRAS (when they are not TEES) with European Rook Over producing the ERO of BRASERO. Hmmm. Not a lot of alcohol there, but no doubt we’ll be meeting Hawk again before Covid allows us to have a Listener setters’ dinner so we may be able to squeeze him into the elite at the bar.

We had realised what was going on at this stage and CDAOIIRD in the circles, had unjumbled to CARDIOID so we had to draw an appropriate St Valentine heart in our grid. Finding the quotation ‘YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU’RE GONNA GET took us a moment but we were more flummoxed by how we were going to put the missing Q – the one that was goig to be the ‘centre’ of the ‘five-letter word that completes the set’. We considered QUEUE and even QUEEN but eventually had to use FAQIR (a word that, intriguingly, is not in Chambers, though FAKIR -the ‘mystic’ and an alternative spelling FAQUIR are – FAQIR clearly should be). Of course Queen (or Q) was ‘caught’ by a ‘fair’ or carnival in the cryptic clue MYSTIC CARNIVAL QUEEN CAUGHT.

What an impressive compilation. Thank you Hawk!

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L4646 ‘Life’ by Hawk

Posted by Encota on 5 Mar 2021

I read the Preamble. My first thought: “What a monster!” Metaphorical containers (Schrodinger, maybe??); 2 clues side-by-side (I enjoyed co-writing some of those last year for The Magpie, under the {SHARK+ENCOTA}* -> Shakenactor pseudonym). Plus here we have misprints in one half & extra words in the other. Then letters highlighted in the grid in cells, and then drawing curves and then film quotations!!! Crikey!

And as usual, the giant hint in the Title went straight over my head. It was only when I pondered over where those 29 cells in a closed curve might be that I began to get what the subject actually was.

“Life … is like a box of chocolates …” Now how exactly does that quotation end? I had a look round the grid and decided that, since 29 cells were required, then the diameter of an equivalent circle would be approx 9 cells (+/- a bit to allow for the cycloid), and so the letters must be somewhere about there. It soon became clear that it was “…YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT YOU’RE GONNA GET”. And, like Toby in that Topic advert, it was ‘funny how I remembered right at the end’.

The ‘almost’ symmetrical nature of a box of chocolates was a nice touch. In our case each pair of chocs/clues had ‘different centres’. Very neat!

There was a slightly worry for us poor solvers where the CLOSED curve needed to be drawn: luckily it only took a little bit of artistic licence at the top of the heart to ensure the curve was closed and so all was well!

This took me well into Saturday, having started Friday evening, so definitely one of the tougher ones of the year so far for me – fantastic!

Cheers all,

Tim / Encota

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