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Listener No 4510: Vexatious Lipography by Pock

Posted by Dave Hennings on 27 July 2018

The first thought that crossed my mind when I saw this puzzle was “Haven’t we had lipography before?” A bit of research enabled me to realise that I was thinking of haplography, and the haplographical puzzle by Nudd last year. Haplography is “the inadvertent writing once of what should have been written twice.” Lipography, on the other hand, is “accidental omission of a letter or letters in writing.”

The second thought that crossed my mind was “What a short preamble, and they’ve left out the Chambers blurb.” A further perusal showed that the clues weren’t signified as Across or Down, so I guessed that a missing letter might be… but wait, that would spoil the fun.

Addressing 1ac, I noted that Pock (an old setter in disguise?) was being kind to us by enumerating the answer before lipographical adjustment. Further across clue addressing revealed only 11 AUTUMN, 20 MANTILLA and 34 GUSSET (good old Gus, the theatrical cat to the rescue).

Well, that was somewhat woeful! Despite the full enumeration, I had solved none of them. Luckily (or was it Pock’s generosity?), 1dn came to the rescue with Were we crazy to smuggle turtle’s shell? (5). From the wordplay, it was likely to be MATED, but what was the definition? Aaaah, yes, we had to be delipographed to become wed! A quick scan of all the clues revealed, of course, that there wasn’t a D anywhere to be found, and any entry that lost a D had a D dropped from its clue before it made sense.

After that, it was good fun to work out where the missing D was in each clue, or in two cases the missing DD. 8ac Mystery trip, taking in Germany, mile from Koblenz (6) led to RIDDLE with mile becoming middle, and 38ac Real ales, extra rum, bar opening — on means to get high (6) was LADDER, with ales becoming addles. (Bet Ms Curran had a fit when she read that clue! [Apparently she did. Ed.]) All lipographed words in the clues and grid became real words. My favourite clue was probably 26dn, Page from Merry Wives is turning yellowish-brown (6) for SIENNA (ANNE IS reversed, a reference to Mistress Anne Page in TMWoW).

And so to the quotation: “T•ATE•ERNA• •ANTO•PEN•E” in rows 3 and 11. It looked as though it could be “That eternal want of pence”, reflecting the predecimal D that was missing from the puzzle. A quick check of my ODQ, which I bought with a book token given to me last Christmas, revealed… nothing! The only pence-oriented quotation was “Take care of the pence, and the pounds will take care of themselves”, a quotation from William Lowndes (1652–1724) and the resulting proverb (which lost the comma).

So nothing in the ODQ and a bit of googling required. That revealed, along with references to Trump VP Pence, Tennyson’s Will Waterproof’s Lyrical Monologue:

I grow in worth and wit and sense,
   Unboding critic-pen,
Or that eternal want of pence
   Which vexes public men,

Now, don’t ask me why, but my mind went back to the recent Listener, Xanthippe’s I-spy Choices, in which “clear these ambiguities” wasn’t in my new edition but was in an older one. Well, bugger me!! It was the same this week. There it is in my old 5th Edition, along with great swathes of Tennyson that have been expunged from my new 8th Edition.

I wondered if the editors had asked setters to come up with themes based on quotations no longer in the latest ODQ. I wouldn’t put it past them. No, I wouldn’t!

Thanks for an entertaining puzzle Pock, or should I say Paddock? I hope your next puzzle won’t be a lipogram: “a piece of writing, esp in verse, from which all words are omitted which contain a particular letter” (my italics).


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Vexatious Lipography by Pock

Posted by shirleycurran on 27 July 2018



What a short preamble! I thought it must be the shortest ever but was told that there was a shorter one in Listener 3849 Bengo Drums by Arcturus, published 29/10/2005. (No, I am not going to write a blog with no Ds – ‘Drums’ just preempted that!) That preamble simply consisted of the words: “Sir John provides an explanation.” “Pock?” we asked each other. He doesn’t appear on Dave Hennings’ Crossword Database but it was soon pretty clear that this was not really a débutant setter unless there had been a fair amount of editorial nudging and improving. Hah – afterthought – a real penny-drop moment, maybe this is by NoD.

Of course, there were many thematic hints to add to the preamble. A number of clues led to words that were one or two letters longer than the spaces allocated and that was where the lipography was going to be – well, one place, anyway. Maybe a letter was omitted from that mini preamble and the setter’s name. One penny had gone down.

I read through the clues to see whether this ‘new’ setter could qualify for an entry to a Listener Setters’ boozy knees-up and oh my! Did he qualify! He started innocuously with ‘More than one beer can start off nausea in infants (7)’. No problem there (except perhaps the underage alcohol). We added N(ausea) to TINIES and got TINNIES (mugs or cans of beer, chiefly NZ or Australia). Immediately afterwards he was into the whisky: ‘Leaves novelist most of whisky (8)’ giving GREENE + RY(e) = GREENERY. Reading on, I found ‘Real ales, extra rum bar opening – one means to get high (6)’ – He certainly does intend to get high with the ales and rum added, but we decided a LADDER was his means to get there and had our next penny drop moment.

Well, there was a monster hint wasn’t there? The lipography was clearly going to involve one of the letters of the missing word Down. Having solved RITUAL, LAYETTE, TUTU and AUTUMN among our first successes, I suspected it was the letter O but it was not to be. A double D had to come out of LA(dd)ER. However, we had the grid half full before the next penny-drop moment occurred and we realized why some of the clues were simply not making sense. Of course, Ds were coming out of the clues too, so that ‘In front of Queen ate pub meal (6)’ gave us Date + INN + ER = INNER. It all made sense and the grid filled – except for that ‘phrase from a quotation’. Who talked about missing Ds?

A fellow solver has told me that, within minutes of beginning his solve, he looked for quotations about PENCE lacking and found the Tennyson quotation. I had no such brilliant penny drop moment and had an almost full grid before getting: “I grow in worth, and wit, and sense,/ Unboding critic pen,/ Or that eternal want of Pence,/ Which vexes public men.

Rather amusingly, another solver, one from over the pond, mused that this had to be a comment on the American president and his aide.

Nice, anyway, Pock, or NoD. I think this was probably a crossword that snooty solvers will claim was easy for them but it was certainly not easy to create with such constraints and was nicely thematically unified – all those dropping pennies, the want of pence! Thank you, Pock.


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‘Vexatious Lipography’ by Pock

Posted by Encota on 27 July 2018

The ultimate PDM (Penny Dropping Moment)!!!  Tennyson’s “That eternal want of pence” pointed the Solver to a clever mix of missing D’s.  Very clever to have real words throughout – thanks Pock 🙂

And, to align with the terseness of the Preamble (the shortest I ever recall seeing), that’s quite enough from me.


Tim / Encota

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