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Quads II by Shark

Posted by Encota on 23 Sep 2016

Welcome to my second ever post here!

Firstly, many thanks to Shark for a fun & challenging puzzle.  Solving the initial clues (which, as an aside, have the usual terse precision I am learning to expect from a Shark puzzle), finding FOURTH DIMENSION and filling the grid felt like the easy bit!  I loved some of the clues where many of the letters were missing from the Wordplay, with DEMENTIA clued as something like [D]E[M][E][N]T[I]A with the wordplay of “Upset about…” being for ATE< (i.e. ATE, reversed) thus being my favourite.  I also loved how specific letters were missing from the wordplay even for checked letters –very impressive!

As an aside, I still had one clue at the time of writing which I couldn’t quite parse (SCRAGGED), though hopefully it’ll have come to me by the time this is published.  I can find a definition and many of the components, apparently, but I couldn’t quite link it all together.

Picking which ten squares to black out in each quadrant was the hard part – there initially seemed to be so many options!  I almost ended up with a mixed barred and blocked puzzle, which seemed like nonsense.  Another try and I had spotted them…

With this level of difficulty I was wondering whether the four pieces that the grid was to be cut into would actually be more tortuous tetris-like dovetailed tessellations and did have to double-check that the ‘must then draw lines’ in the Preamble simply meant the central straight lines.

Once the SE diagonal looked suspiciously like (LE)NGTH then the other three quickly followed.

Finally, with a Title like Quads, was there a medical connection, was it simply Quadrants, did it refer to the number of dimensions, or was there another meaning on top of some of those that I was missing – not sure.  Also waiting another 30 weeks simply to grab the Puzzle Number of 4444 would surely have been tempting as an editor, though unfair on Shark to have to wait another eight months or so to be published.   Hopefully that puzzle’s already reserved for Quads III !

Overall, I love the variety of difficulty in The Listener and definitely prefer the harder ones: this is exactly the sort of puzzle I like – so thanks again to Shark!

Tim / Encota

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Quads by Shark

Posted by shirleycurran on 19 Jun 2015

Shark QuadsShark indeed, half of last year’s Ascot Gold Cup winners team (with Nudd – co-setting as Rood): this is going to be a challenge! We read that long preamble and breathe an anxious sigh.  What have we here? Part or all of the definition words in all but six clues is going to shift to another and vice versa, creating eighteen pairs. We have to use the first letter of the correct clue and of the clue it came from ‘in either order’ to spell out three instructions. Then we are given more information, clarifying the ways we must use those instructions. That’s plenty to be going on with – time to solve.

Of course, I have to check that Shark and his co-setter have put that ‘Cup’ to good use so I quickly scan the clues to check that he still qualifies for the Listener Setters’ Imbibers Gang and find a boozy sprinkling of evidence. But what I actually find when we have completed our solve leaves me staggering drunkenly and wondering that Shark can stay sober enough to compile at all, never mind cup winners!

10 across, after we have moved TIPPLE from 16ac reads ‘Drama! Grand tipple often linked to eggs (3)’ giving, of course, NO + G = NOG – a healthy eggy start. But then, 16ac, before any adjustment gave ‘Ultimately indulge in cocktail of citrus for a yellowy tipple (7)’ (indulg)E in CITRUS* = ICTERUS (yellowy ailment). It sounds as though there was a move onto Limoncello (one of my favourites).

6d (after we have interchanged SUBLIME and TART) ‘Anguilla member bottles Iceland pickle that’s tart but out of date (5)’ giving IS in EEL = EISEL. We’re back to Bardish days here in Shark’s choice of a vinegary tipple. Fortunately he gets onto healthier habits with 21d, ‘Musical blend to offend [original]: It was from the grapevine (6)’ RAI + SIN (our French word for the source of all those litres – and an old grape). Well, ‘Cheers, Shark’. but no, he hasn’t finished. 29d (after pairing with ‘UNCULTIVATED) gives ‘Quay once reduced Virginia, which soothes the Tongan etc. (4)’ KA + VA. Horrid stuff that I thought tasted like dirty dishcloths but it is mildly narcotic too, isn’t it! Well, well, Shark!

Doing all the pairing took us ages but eventually we were able to untangle three instructions from those initial clue and solution letters.

Shark QuadsworksheetTURN NW QUADRANT TO SE



‘The first (five words) applies en bloc, overwriting part of the grid (with normal letter orientation) and leaving another part empty.

The second (five words) leaves only one entry wholly or partly in the empty region the same as it originally was.’

We are being told to chop up our completed grid and glue it together differently. This is returning us to Jago wren or to Listener snowflake or Astaire dancing steps! We do as instructed.

Astonishing! We find that that inverted quadrant has made real words when inserted into the south-east corner of our grid and reorient those letters. We are, however, scratching our heads in habitual Numpty fashion wondering how we are going to use the initial letters of those 36 paired clues to make more real words to fill that empty quadrant. What a huge task seems to loom.

Shark Quadswork moved quadrant 001Fortunately, Shark has given us some help: there were those six unpaired clues that each contain an extra word describing ‘a way of finding most of the required material in the required order’. (my italics).

We find SUCCESSIVE LETTERS FROM ORIGINAL PAIRED CLUES. That seems to be astonishingly generous of Shark when we realise that he has spelled out the letters (most of them) when we read the first, second, third etc. letters of clues.

He isn’t going to let us off as easily as that! Now we understand the MOST. The 36th paired clue has ? at the end, to oblige us to check that we have used all the letters, since 11d could give STIRES, STIRKS or STIRPS. Clever Shark! STIRKS.

Finished? No, we still have that final instruction: ANAGRAM SAME EIGHT LETTERS. I have found the one word that hasn’t changed, ICTERUS, but now, comparing my original and new grids, I find the letters MAAIADEC. That can give only ACADEMIA (so nicely suggesting the title, Quads, which, of course, is what we have been playing with).

Dazzling! This certainly confirms Shark’s place among the masters.

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