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‘Squares’ by Phi

Posted by Encota on 25 Aug 2017

First of all, thank you Phi for a clever and enjoyable puzzle.  Mine ended up looking like this:

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I particularly liked how each square had the colour required within it – especially the ‘folded’ yellow – and that we weren’t spoon-fed their existence in the Preamble.

But I had been somewhat surprised to see the puzzle’s theme – and below you’ll see why …

Last (at the time of writing) Saturday 29th July I was delighted to meet up with fellow setters and solvers at the regular, quarterly, Listener get-together in London.  Before the meeting and after a relaxing breakfast with one of my sons, he and I decided to visit Tate Modern.

And there I found a great idea for a puzzle.  I took photos so I could recall every detail.  On the way home on the train I started sketching how it might look in the Grid.  Then I put that aside for the rest of the week to let me deal with other ‘stuff’ that needed sorting.  This is what I had seen:


This was the artwork ‘Composition C’ by Piet Mondrian, details below:


So imagine my delight when I saw L4462 this weekend!  I am definitely counting myself very lucky that it appeared before I’d invested too much time in creating my own imitation.  Have any other setters experienced similar?*  I.e. been a (long?) way down the track with a new puzzle theme only to find someone else got there first?  Perhaps it is a lot more common than I realise?  If yes, I’d love to hear your Comments!


Tim / Encota

*Of course fellow blogger Dave Henning’s database does a great job of helping one avoid inadvertently using a previously deployed theme, or ensuring that a new use is different enough: it’s the time where new themes are hiding in the puzzle editor’s queues where the ‘fun’ starts!

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Squares by Phi

Posted by shirleycurran on 25 Aug 2017

The preamble was rather daunting – a grid with no clue numbers, no word lengths and the clues divided into sets of three ‘squares’ and others. There were two anagrams to discover and solve too, though we suspected at once, since those were both of three words, that they were going to be on the top and bottom rows of the grid or down the two sides.

Of course I had to check that Phi had maintained his long-standing right of entry to the Listener setters’ toping outfit, and, of course, though rather eccentrically, he confirmed it with an obscure East African drink, ‘Millet supplied by West Africa for East African drink.’ I confess that I needed Mrs Bradford to produce a drink with WA in it, and, of course, RAGI is millet, so hope to see you at the bar in Paris, Phi, maybe with something slightly less exotic than WARAGI. Cheers!

We were really lucky in that we spotted the hidden ORTOLAN at once, ‘Some decor to landscape is bunting’, and it was evident, since the ‘other’ clues were in conventional grid order, that that was going to fill the first across light of seven cells, so our grid fill was immediately underway. Since that was one of the clues that was not in any of the squares, our ‘yellow’ square quickly filled. As soon as we realized that a word like DITHEIST, ‘Scots block robbery, one directed by two overlords’ (DIT + HEIST – what lovely word play!) was in that square even if only one letter of it fitted there, we were well underway.

Even better. I PAI?T appeared on our top row and we had our penny-drop-moment. Who paints squares? Google at once confirmed that MONDRIAN’S first name was PIET so I PAINT MODERN seemed likely and the slightly less likely NO DIM PAINTER went across the bottom of our grid.

I was lucky in that I had selected red, yellow and blue as my working colours, with those ‘other’ solutions in green and the dimensions of those squares were fixed since black lines, in Mondrian style, had to divide them. We soon spotted that the names of the colours were actually appearing in the squares, and we were home and dry. Most enjoyable, thank you, Phi.

Hares? Of course they were there, rather deceptively jumbled and not in straight lines but squatting merrily in the Mondrian masterpiece. There were a couple of  DOEs too at the top and bottom of the grid but the hares had clearly not spotted them yet or there would have been some lively sport, I suspect.

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Listener No 4462: Squares by Phi

Posted by Dave Hennings on 25 Aug 2017

Phi’s 2017 Listener puzzle faced us this week. You never know with him whether it’s going to be relatively easy, tricky or an outright toughie. My blog for last year’s A Bit Up in the Air (about the tossing of a coin) began “A much easier week from Phi”. Would this week’s be equally forgiving? I tossed a coin: it came down heads.

Here we had four sets of clues. Three were presented in alphabetical order of their answers, each relating to a square region of the grid. The fourth set of clues were in normal grid order and I decided to tackle them first.

The second clue in this group led to ORTOLAN and the third to KERMES. I took a chance and entered them in rows 3 and 4 respectively. OISE came next, but there were no 4-letter across entries so it looked as though that would go in the top right corner. MERCAT and ALUM were the only others I got in this group and, again, I took a guess that they were in the bottom half of the grid.

The clues under the ‘square’ headings were a bit slow coming, but I was happy when I got INOBSERVANT going down column 1 — the V almost certainly precluded it from column 12 (OLLAV seemed unlikely). The rest of the grid still took some time, especially since the top and bottom rows turned out to be the unclued entries.

These two rows turned out to be I PAINT MODERN and NO DIM PAINTER (rather than “Nod, I’m painter!”). It didn’t take too long to unscramble Dutch artist Piet Mondrian (1872–1944), he of the squares, rectangles and black lines. The Wiki article describes his later works as “almost cartographical in appearance”, which I guess could be called MAP RENDITION.

All that remained was to paint each of the regions as indicated by their hidden colours — RED, YELLOW, BLUE — and then draw in the thick black lines. Et voilà! Although it certainly AIN’T MIRO PEN’D.

Another enjoyable work of art from Phi, thanks. I’d pitch it about medium difficulty, unlike some of Mondrian’s works which remind me of what I drew as a kid! Now where’s my easel?

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