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Two Names by Deuce

Posted by shirleycurran on 2 Apr 2021

The other Numpty is almost half way through solving the clues of Deuce’s Two Names while I am still busy colour coding clues to match entry lengths and highlighting the 7 slots for the unclued entries. It is rather amusing, later, to see how the clue numbers give us a taxonomic order. I have just finished Bill Bryson’s A Short History of Nearly Everything (brilliant bedtime reading!) and he goes into great detail about the taxonomic disorder of current nomenclature, but his names for our lot were a great help as, when we had ANIMALIA, CHORDATA and MAMMALIA, we could slot in PRIMATES, HOMINIDAE and HOMO SAPIENS.

But I am leaping ahead. We haven’t seen much of Deuce in the Listener series. Does he qualify for the elite setters’ oenophile outfit? I am a third of the way through my scan of the clues before finding a decisive “yes”. ‘Sway twice after [neatly] lapping head of ale (4) (we later use the NE of NEatly to give us part of GENESIS TWO TWENTY but there is enough left in the clue to give us BIS around the ‘head of ale – A = BIAS. Well, if Deuce is lapping that head of ale, Cheers!

We are happily able to spot a monastery, ‘Monastery farm in Midi in dire aerial [assault] (9)’ We anagram AERIAL around MAS (that old chestnut for setters), and LAMASERAI fills the clued nine-letter slot. ‘This [stocking] dresses the tail? Nae! (7, two words)’ gives us another useful anagram for TILE HAT filling one of the three remaining seven-letter slots and our grid fill is underway.

Our very last entry causes us some head-scratching then earns a smile. ‘Internally burn inside of pan having more [two] down (7)’ We put (b)UR(n) into a FRIER and get FURRIER – having more down. Nice!

It doesn’t take TEA long to tell us that CURSE/ LIANA/ L/ N unjumbles to CARL LINNAEUS. I wonder why Deuce didn’t require us to write that below the grid, so that he could have retained all real words.

Those pairs of letters now tell us that HE IS LIKE THE PROTAGONIST OF GENESIS TWO TWENTY. Well, that was Adam wasn’t it? At the end of the verse, God is wanting to give Adam a partner in his naming of all the beasts and so on, on earth, so we look for one of Linnaeus’ partners in the grid A NAME TO CONJOIN AS IN THE CLOSE OF THE PASSAGE – and there she is, his EVE, reversed at the foot of the grid: SARA MORAEA. Thank you Deuce. Very nice!

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Listener No 4650: Two Names by Deuce

Posted by Dave Hennings on 2 Apr 2021

The theme of Deuce’s first Listener in October 2019 was something that didn’t exist five years ago — Brexit. This week, hopefully, a less contentious theme with a person to be identified by the seven numbered (but unclued) entries in the grid. The remaining clues, in alphabetical order, contained an extra word with two hints given by their first two letters.

Scanning grid lengths and answer lengths, the only 9-letter unnumbered entry was in the penultimate column. Its clue was therefore Monastery farm in Midi in dire aerial [assault] (9), and LAMASERIE was slotted in [MAS in AERIAL*] — nice to get, but at this stage totally useless!

Back to the top, and ALAE, ALARUM, ANT, ANTI, AROMA and ASP made me wonder whether every entry began with the letter A. Luckily BALLOT and BEMA disabused me of that. I also noticed that there were an awful lot of people dotted around the clues: Lowry, Cleopatra, Dorothy, O’Connor, Tarzan and Wolff. Oh, and not forgetting Rees-Mogg — bloody Brexit again! [Not quite. Ed.]

Just under an hour saw enough answers for me to be able to start filling the grid. Using LAMASERAI, the top right corner started me off, then across the top and down the left. Unclued 7ac was obviously SAPIENT, so we were looking for a wise man, and it looked as though 3ac at the bottom was MAMMALIA. Linnaeus came to mind but I couldn’t remember his first name. Luckily, Wiki could — it was Carl.

Begrudgingly, my favourite clue was probably the one mentioned above: Rees-Mogg’s old post here to some extent called it original [sin] (6) with its reference to William Rees-Mogg, the father of the current Member of Parliament for North East Somerset, and a former EDITOR of The Times.

The first two letters of the extra words in clues revealed two hints: He is like the protagonist of Genesis two twenty and A name to conjoin as in the close of the passage. Reaching for my old school bible, Genesis 2:20 soon revealed And Adam gave names to al cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; followed by but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. (It’s a mystery to me why we’re told not to start a sentence with “And”, the Old Testament is littered with them.)

The seven unclued entries gave the taxonomy for all of us, but specifically the “thematic person’s self-description”: ANIMALIA, CHORDATA, MAMMALIA, PRIMATES, HOMINIDAE, HOMO, SAPIENS giving the binomial name Homo Sapiens.

So the preamble told us to rearrange the top row. Thus, CURSE LIANA L N gave CARL LINNAEUS and then a related person had to be highlighted. Wiki to the rescue again to find that Linnaeus’s wife was SARA MORAEA and it only took two (!) passes through the grid to find her reversed in the bottom row.

Remembering to change SAPIENT to SAPIENS, all was done. Thanks, Deuce.

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Two Names by Verbascum

Posted by shirleycurran on 25 Jan 2013

Red herring 001One thing you could always be sure of finding in a Numpty blog has, for the last two years, been at least one stinky red herring. We are very good at pursuing a false trail. BRB has just taught me that the red herring is connected with drawing a herring across the track to put the dogs off the scent. We very easily lose the scent.

Listener setters have been rather clever at producing red herrings. I have only to go back to Gos’s Murder Mystery of last August, where he had us almost misled into highlighting Dr Fell, rather than HM, and Dysart led us a fine dance hunting for Kafka works rather than those of Haruki Murakami, last April.

However, this must be the first time the RED HERRING has actually turned up in the grid. (And has it? As usual, I am struck by doubt as there is a convincing herring swimming down diagonally across my grid, and if I suitably colour him RED, that will surely satisfy the rubric. But those corrected letters spelled out CLUPEA RUFA and if I translate those two names, I get RED HERRING – two words. Should I then also highlight the RED that appears at the end of PALISANDER? Perhaps this is just a red herring!)

We started our solve rather dubiously, as the preamble seemed complicated. Clearly solutions needed to be entered to lead us towards those two names. However, we were lucky again and within minutes had our TRACE ELEMENT (with a bit of Numpty discussion about whether they can be found in wood – Chambers finally convinced us that this was one of the misprints – WOOD for FOOD), TURN UP TRUMPS, PROCREATIONAL, PALISANDER and BINOMINAL. There were plenty of generous anagrams and hidden words in this one. Perhaps it is editorial policy to give us a gentle lead in to the year.

Of course, though, Verbascum indulged in the compulsory Listener compiler alcoholic tipple with his ‘Wine from GreeN/Ce King sale ultimately isn’t a hit (7)’ (Giving R = king, salE + ISNT A* = RETSINA), even if he didn’t find that resin-tasting Greek stuff much of a hit.

BINOMINAL led us to LINNAEUS and we removed one N(ame) from it producing BINOMIAL. We didn’t instantly link that term with NEWTON (the other Numpty claimed that ‘everybody did binomials, Laplace, Gauss, Euler, Poisson to name but a few’) but Wikipedia did and, naturally, that led us to the apple tree. By this time, we had GOYA in place ‘Artist regularly dipped into goody bag (4)’ (GoOdY bAg) and the PY led us to PYRUS MALUS.

Red Herrings

Red Herrings

We had a full grid and CLUPEA RFA G appearing from our extra letters. It wasn’t difficult to work out that CLUPEA was a generic name for herrings and there was our herring, swimming down our grid. G and g were clearly both Newton’s concerns, so we suspected that we needed a U to turn our herring into a red one. Finding that from 7, 8 or 9 down took us a minute or two.

‘Fine rogue for pinching body part (4)’ (Fine* = NEIF) We had opted for the Shakespearian word NEIF with Dickens’ Oliver Twist in mind. What else would he use his fist for but ‘pinching’? But it was not to be – we needed a more pugnacious interpretation, perhaps a Scottish Robert Burns’ NAVE version of the obscure word to produce that necessary U for our CLUPEA RUFA and ‘punching’ it had to be.
So there it was. A couple of hours’ enjoyment that all fitted together thematically giving me an excuse to decorate the grid with at least one red herring (and maybe two!) Many thanks to Verbascum for an entertaining start to the Listener year.

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